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	<title>Comments on: Plasma Applet Browser Screen-cast</title>
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		<title>By: Ivan Čukić</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2007/07/31/plasma-applet-browser-screen-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Čukić</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;ivan&quot;&gt;
@Fabrice&lt;br/&gt;I agree for the applet icons.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think that it would be *huge* *overkill* to have nepomuk&#039;s ratings on this. Applets are not something that you&#039;ll be adding/removing every minute.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for other comments, I think that I&#039;ve already answered them.&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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@Fabrice<br />I agree for the applet icons.</p>
<p>I think that it would be *huge* *overkill* to have nepomuk&#8217;s ratings on this. Applets are not something that you&#8217;ll be adding/removing every minute.</p>
<p>As for other comments, I think that I&#8217;ve already answered them.</p></div>
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		<title>By: Fabrice</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2007/07/31/plasma-applet-browser-screen-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s very interesting.&lt;br/&gt;Just some small comments :&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- a default icon could be used fro applet not having/providing icons. If all applets must provide a category, then you could have 1 icon for each category.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- Instead of having a favorite conept, you should instead have rating and integrate this with nepomuk ( which means you could use Nepomuk to also look for applet ). As said by Lans, rating stars should be used like in Amarok, and rating an applet should not select it. We could have a second colon for the rating and so the user will be able to sort the applets by rating&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- We should have a recommend category which will list the recommend applets. This should be easily customisable by users/sysadmin/distribution. This way distribution may provide their own applet and with this category allow users to easily notice them.&lt;br/&gt;The recommended category should be selected by default. Firefox ( for extension ), and mosts applets providers ( google gadget, ... ) have this kind of category.&lt;br/&gt;Recommended != Favorites, and may not be also the applets with the highest rating.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- Instead of using a plain blue rectangle, you could used a semi-transparent rectangle using the default plasma border with a shadow effect at the bottom. Do you see what I mean ? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- The search bar should be at the top.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- the PAB should allow to add applets too, so a &quot;add Plasma applet&quot; button should be added at the bottom. By clicking on this button, the user could add manually a plasma applet or use GHNS service.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- the latter reminds me that for plasma applet, we should defined an archive format to ease plasma applet installation from third party site.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;FACORAT Fabrice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s very interesting.<br />Just some small comments :</p>
<p>- a default icon could be used fro applet not having/providing icons. If all applets must provide a category, then you could have 1 icon for each category.</p>
<p>- Instead of having a favorite conept, you should instead have rating and integrate this with nepomuk ( which means you could use Nepomuk to also look for applet ). As said by Lans, rating stars should be used like in Amarok, and rating an applet should not select it. We could have a second colon for the rating and so the user will be able to sort the applets by rating</p>
<p>- We should have a recommend category which will list the recommend applets. This should be easily customisable by users/sysadmin/distribution. This way distribution may provide their own applet and with this category allow users to easily notice them.<br />The recommended category should be selected by default. Firefox ( for extension ), and mosts applets providers ( google gadget, &#8230; ) have this kind of category.<br />Recommended != Favorites, and may not be also the applets with the highest rating.</p>
<p>- Instead of using a plain blue rectangle, you could used a semi-transparent rectangle using the default plasma border with a shadow effect at the bottom. Do you see what I mean ? </p>
<p>- The search bar should be at the top.</p>
<p>- the PAB should allow to add applets too, so a &#8220;add Plasma applet&#8221; button should be added at the bottom. By clicking on this button, the user could add manually a plasma applet or use GHNS service.</p>
<p>- the latter reminds me that for plasma applet, we should defined an archive format to ease plasma applet installation from third party site.</p>
<p>FACORAT Fabrice</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Čukić</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2007/07/31/plasma-applet-browser-screen-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Čukić</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;ivan&quot;&gt;
I&#039;ll check what are the plans about GHNS and Plasma... so, maybe...&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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I&#8217;ll check what are the plans about GHNS and Plasma&#8230; so, maybe&#8230;</div>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2007/07/31/plasma-applet-browser-screen-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a checkbox that reads &quot;Show applets from other users&quot;. When you enable it, it also shows applets from GHNS, mixed with the ones you have in your computer. Maybe an icon, or something to show that it comes from the network. The categories would remain the same&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You could show the ratings other users give to the applets as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a checkbox that reads &#8220;Show applets from other users&#8221;. When you enable it, it also shows applets from GHNS, mixed with the ones you have in your computer. Maybe an icon, or something to show that it comes from the network. The categories would remain the same</p>
<p>You could show the ratings other users give to the applets as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Čukić</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2007/07/31/plasma-applet-browser-screen-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Čukić</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;ivan&quot;&gt;
@Jmiahman&lt;br/&gt;Unfortunately, I don&#039;t have a hosting that I could abuse to upload the video files. I have the video in ogg format ~ 8MB.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;@Yousuf&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for the screenshot. I agree that it&#039;s fancy, but I don&#039;t know if it would fit the KDE UIG.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;@Bille&lt;br/&gt;This is great idea... I&#039;ll see what is the best way to have this done. (where and how to define the specials)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;@arno&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m constrained with the info that plasmoids provide. I can not instantiate every plasmoid just to get the screenshot. If the plasmoids would provide it, I would use it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;@Ricard Marxer &lt;br/&gt;I have to say that I don&#039;t agree with you for aligning or disabled-painting of the emblems because (imho) it would look overcrowded (later case) or empty (former case).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for the glowing and other suggestions, it has been worked on at the moment. (yes, and moving the search bar too :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for suggestions.&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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@Jmiahman<br />Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t have a hosting that I could abuse to upload the video files. I have the video in ogg format ~ 8MB.</p>
<p>@Yousuf<br />Thanks for the screenshot. I agree that it&#8217;s fancy, but I don&#8217;t know if it would fit the KDE UIG.</p>
<p>@Bille<br />This is great idea&#8230; I&#8217;ll see what is the best way to have this done. (where and how to define the specials)</p>
<p>@arno<br />I&#8217;m constrained with the info that plasmoids provide. I can not instantiate every plasmoid just to get the screenshot. If the plasmoids would provide it, I would use it.</p>
<p>@Ricard Marxer <br />I have to say that I don&#8217;t agree with you for aligning or disabled-painting of the emblems because (imho) it would look overcrowded (later case) or empty (former case).</p>
<p>As for the glowing and other suggestions, it has been worked on at the moment. (yes, and moving the search bar too <img src='http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/kopete/smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for suggestions.</p></div>
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		<title>By: Ricard Marxer</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2007/07/31/plasma-applet-browser-screen-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricard Marxer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Just a few comments/suggestions of what I think could help:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- Align the emblems.  The stars are ok but the others could always be in the same column.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- Another solution is to always leave the emblems there, but if they are inactive, then make them saturated and half transparent.  This would be possible if only a few emblems are possible.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- If an emblem is clickable, make the cursor become a hand or make the emblem glow, or both.  Just to make it obvious.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- I also think the search field should go on the top.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hey, I send you these comments because I like a lot what your doing.  Really, goooood job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great!!</p>
<p>Just a few comments/suggestions of what I think could help:</p>
<p>- Align the emblems.  The stars are ok but the others could always be in the same column.</p>
<p>- Another solution is to always leave the emblems there, but if they are inactive, then make them saturated and half transparent.  This would be possible if only a few emblems are possible.</p>
<p>- If an emblem is clickable, make the cursor become a hand or make the emblem glow, or both.  Just to make it obvious.</p>
<p>- I also think the search field should go on the top.</p>
<p>Hey, I send you these comments because I like a lot what your doing.  Really, goooood job.</p>
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		<title>By: arno</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2007/07/31/plasma-applet-browser-screen-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>arno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 08:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow then ;)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;is a tooltip containing a small screenshot of the aplet on your todo list ? that would be neat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow then <img src='http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/kopete/wink.png' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>is a tooltip containing a small screenshot of the aplet on your todo list ? that would be neat.</p>
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		<title>By: Bille</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2007/07/31/plasma-applet-browser-screen-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Bille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 07:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ivan&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Distros, organizations and other large deployers would love the ability to define their own &#039;Recommended by&#039; category with icon, preferably without patching the code.  Are the categories currently hard-coded or is this already possible?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;cheers&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Bille</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ivan</p>
<p>Distros, organizations and other large deployers would love the ability to define their own &#8216;Recommended by&#8217; category with icon, preferably without patching the code.  Are the categories currently hard-coded or is this already possible?</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>Bille</p>
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		<title>By: Yousuf</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2007/07/31/plasma-applet-browser-screen-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Yousuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you seen the Google Desktop Gadget Browser? It has a lot of eye-candy. Maybe you could get a few cool ideas out of it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Here&#039;s a screenshot:&lt;br/&gt;http://picasaweb.google.com/m.yousuf.ahmad/Dump/photo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen the Google Desktop Gadget Browser? It has a lot of eye-candy. Maybe you could get a few cool ideas out of it.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a screenshot:<br /><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/m.yousuf.ahmad/Dump/photo" rel="nofollow">http://picasaweb.google.com/m.yousuf.ahmad/Dump/photo</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jmiahman</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2007/07/31/plasma-applet-browser-screen-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Jmiahman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unfortunately at work I can not see youtube can someone post this in another format?</description>
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