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	<title>Comments on: Response to &#8220;Lancelot, KDE and Gnome&#8221; (showed in Aaron-colour :) )</title>
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		<title>By: Neolander</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/04/response-to-lancelot-kde-and-gnome-showed-in-aaron-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-7451</link>
		<dc:creator>Neolander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[&lt;strong&gt;censored&lt;/strong&gt;]

If you ever feel the need to criticize everything, you end up writing your own OS or not using a computer. Good luck ;)

There is always a need for design decisions sooner or later when you write a program. They can&#039;t possibly always suit anyone&#039;s need. Gnome has chosen to be simple to use but to lack functionnality and innovation (consider the difference between each release for an user&#039;s point of view...), and KDE has chosen to start coding on a totally fresh codebase, encountering much bugs and regressions in terms of functionnality but being way more ergonomic and usable (imo). These are totally different approaches. They both have advantages and drawback. But if you&#039;re here, you must be a linux user, so you know that YOU ARE THE ONE THAT CHOOSES THE SOFTWARE THAT YOU USE !

As a consequence, PEACE PLEASE ! XD</description>
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<p>If you ever feel the need to criticize everything, you end up writing your own OS or not using a computer. Good luck <img src='http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>There is always a need for design decisions sooner or later when you write a program. They can&#8217;t possibly always suit anyone&#8217;s need. Gnome has chosen to be simple to use but to lack functionnality and innovation (consider the difference between each release for an user&#8217;s point of view&#8230;), and KDE has chosen to start coding on a totally fresh codebase, encountering much bugs and regressions in terms of functionnality but being way more ergonomic and usable (imo). These are totally different approaches. They both have advantages and drawback. But if you&#8217;re here, you must be a linux user, so you know that YOU ARE THE ONE THAT CHOOSES THE SOFTWARE THAT YOU USE !</p>
<p>As a consequence, PEACE PLEASE ! XD</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;ivan&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Ok, just to try to stop this, if you want to do a KDE vs Gnome (or whatever) discussion, please go to the first GNU/Linux forum you encounter and join the existing thread about it.&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;m not going to even respond to these comments about &quot;trolling for a trolling&quot; (&quot;an eye for an eye...&quot;), minimum distance of DE difference etc. Peace!
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<strong>Ok, just to try to stop this, if you want to do a KDE vs Gnome (or whatever) discussion, please go to the first GNU/Linux forum you encounter and join the existing thread about it.</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to even respond to these comments about &#8220;trolling for a trolling&#8221; (&#8220;an eye for an eye&#8230;&#8221;), minimum distance of DE difference etc. Peace!
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		<title>By: Thadeu Cascardo</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/04/response-to-lancelot-kde-and-gnome-showed-in-aaron-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-6082</link>
		<dc:creator>Thadeu Cascardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if default themes or people&#039;s default choice is the reason for that, but, although I&#039;ve almost never used Windows XP or later or KDE, I always had problems identifying which desktop a person was using until I got less than two meters near the screen.

Notice that&#039;s my only impression about looks. I can&#039;t say anything about usability, feel or any other stuff, besides people&#039;s default choice of themes. I don&#039;t know it that&#039;s on purpose by the users and proponents of KDE, to attract Windows users.

One of the major differences I could notice from KDE and GNOME is how GNOME is much more simple and KDE gives many more options. Giving options is good, but putting them on the menu for every user makes it difficult to find what most users would like to change. GNOME, on the other side, has been criticized for its lack of or hidden options. So, it&#039;s really a matter of preference.

And, like Gustavo has said, it&#039;s good to have options that are free (as in freedom). I am glad we have KDE, GNOME and some many others.

What is really upsetting or funny is people saying that GNOME is dead because of KDE4. And since one KDE press contact has &quot;trolled&quot; about it, I wouldn&#039;t find odd that Gustavo would &quot;troll&quot; back, just to be fun about it.

I know you can&#039;t help taking his post too much seriously, but some of his points just show how different is the philosophy of GNOME and KDE projects, and as philosophies, they are subject to very strong opnions that the other end just cannot accept or agree with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if default themes or people&#8217;s default choice is the reason for that, but, although I&#8217;ve almost never used Windows XP or later or KDE, I always had problems identifying which desktop a person was using until I got less than two meters near the screen.</p>
<p>Notice that&#8217;s my only impression about looks. I can&#8217;t say anything about usability, feel or any other stuff, besides people&#8217;s default choice of themes. I don&#8217;t know it that&#8217;s on purpose by the users and proponents of KDE, to attract Windows users.</p>
<p>One of the major differences I could notice from KDE and GNOME is how GNOME is much more simple and KDE gives many more options. Giving options is good, but putting them on the menu for every user makes it difficult to find what most users would like to change. GNOME, on the other side, has been criticized for its lack of or hidden options. So, it&#8217;s really a matter of preference.</p>
<p>And, like Gustavo has said, it&#8217;s good to have options that are free (as in freedom). I am glad we have KDE, GNOME and some many others.</p>
<p>What is really upsetting or funny is people saying that GNOME is dead because of KDE4. And since one KDE press contact has &#8220;trolled&#8221; about it, I wouldn&#8217;t find odd that Gustavo would &#8220;troll&#8221; back, just to be fun about it.</p>
<p>I know you can&#8217;t help taking his post too much seriously, but some of his points just show how different is the philosophy of GNOME and KDE projects, and as philosophies, they are subject to very strong opnions that the other end just cannot accept or agree with.</p>
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		<title>By: Imos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pau Garcia i Quiles 

Same difference. I have the feeling we are of the same opinion. Reread my second sentence and maybe you will see.

@iazzi

I always felt KDE (at least KDE4) = Windows + BeOS sprinkled with some MacOS X
and Gnome = MacOS X flavored with liberal helpings of Windows sprinkled with some OS/2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pau Garcia i Quiles </p>
<p>Same difference. I have the feeling we are of the same opinion. Reread my second sentence and maybe you will see.</p>
<p>@iazzi</p>
<p>I always felt KDE (at least KDE4) = Windows + BeOS sprinkled with some MacOS X<br />
and Gnome = MacOS X flavored with liberal helpings of Windows sprinkled with some OS/2</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gustavo: is that some kind of fear or what&#039;s your intention to troll around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gustavo: is that some kind of fear or what&#8217;s your intention to troll around?</p>
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		<title>By: iazzi</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/04/response-to-lancelot-kde-and-gnome-showed-in-aaron-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-6057</link>
		<dc:creator>iazzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please notice that being like Windows is not a bad thing in itself, so I&#039;m not criticizing Gnome for that, and I don&#039;t think Gnome is a &quot;copy of Windows&quot;. I just had this feeling when I tried Gnome and I disliked it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please notice that being like Windows is not a bad thing in itself, so I&#8217;m not criticizing Gnome for that, and I don&#8217;t think Gnome is a &#8220;copy of Windows&#8221;. I just had this feeling when I tried Gnome and I disliked it.</p>
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		<title>By: iazzi</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/04/response-to-lancelot-kde-and-gnome-showed-in-aaron-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-6056</link>
		<dc:creator>iazzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gustavo Noronha

It&#039;s funny because I think Gnome is similar to Windows and KDE to MacOs... opinions may differ, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gustavo Noronha</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny because I think Gnome is similar to Windows and KDE to MacOs&#8230; opinions may differ, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;ivan&quot;&gt;
@Gustavo
Yes, and a drawing of abacus is an oversimplification of a PC.

Well, it sounded just like that. By claiming something without examples, and without the &#039;I feel like it... blah blah&#039;, it IS just trolling. Maybe you did not intend to troll, but you did. :)

I&#039;m used to &quot;KDE is copying Windows&quot;, &quot;KDE is copying Mac&quot;, &quot;Java is slow&quot; etc. claims, and most of the time I&#039;m just ignoring the posters, but today I was inspired, and you posted a link on my blog so... I just couldn&#039;t resist.

Everybody has a right to have an opinion, but the way you express it is what matters and what labels you.
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@Gustavo<br />
Yes, and a drawing of abacus is an oversimplification of a PC.</p>
<p>Well, it sounded just like that. By claiming something without examples, and without the &#8216;I feel like it&#8230; blah blah&#8217;, it IS just trolling. Maybe you did not intend to troll, but you did. <img src='http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m used to &#8220;KDE is copying Windows&#8221;, &#8220;KDE is copying Mac&#8221;, &#8220;Java is slow&#8221; etc. claims, and most of the time I&#8217;m just ignoring the posters, but today I was inspired, and you posted a link on my blog so&#8230; I just couldn&#8217;t resist.</p>
<p>Everybody has a right to have an opinion, but the way you express it is what matters and what labels you.
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		<title>By: Kevin Kofler</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/04/response-to-lancelot-kde-and-gnome-showed-in-aaron-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-6054</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Kofler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; KDE4 is just not ready. It is not being shipped in distribution releases,

Then what&#039;s Fedora 9?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; KDE4 is just not ready. It is not being shipped in distribution releases,</p>
<p>Then what&#8217;s Fedora 9?</p>
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		<title>By: Tomaz Canabrava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomaz Canabrava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kde4 has it`s UI bloated?
uh... there`s indeed a few ackward people around... o.o`</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kde4 has it`s UI bloated?<br />
uh&#8230; there`s indeed a few ackward people around&#8230; o.o`</p>
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