Comments on: Lancelot alpha 2 http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/29/lancelot-alpha/ Free Software Developer and Enthusiast Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:15:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Beojan http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/29/lancelot-alpha/comment-page-1/#comment-6557 Beojan Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:58:03 +0000 http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/?p=101#comment-6557 I object to making "sections in panel" the default. I think GNOME works with that method because they have a textual description. If all you have are Icons, a new user would find it hard to understand what each of the icons mean, so they would find a single icon, where it is obvious that it launches the menu, with sections inside,which have textual descriptions, easier than having seperate icons for each section. I object to making “sections in panel” the default.
I think GNOME works with that method because they have a textual description. If all you have are Icons, a new user would find it hard to understand what each of the icons mean, so they would find a single icon, where it is obvious that it launches the menu, with sections inside,which have textual descriptions, easier than having seperate icons for each section.

]]> By: Ivan Čukić http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/29/lancelot-alpha/comment-page-1/#comment-6464 Ivan Čukić Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:53:34 +0000 http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/?p=101#comment-6464 <div class="ivan"> <b>@Sparrow</b> Well, we blew this out of proportion. I was just asking what should be the /default/ configuration. Not obligatory one :) So for more space in panel, just use the one-button launcher. (I think that I will retain it as default in the end, although I do not prefer it) </div> @Sparrow
Well, we blew this out of proportion. I was just asking what should be the /default/ configuration. Not obligatory one :) So for more space in panel, just use the one-button launcher. (I think that I will retain it as default in the end, although I do not prefer it) ]]> By: Sparrow http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/29/lancelot-alpha/comment-page-1/#comment-6463 Sparrow Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:37:08 +0000 http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/?p=101#comment-6463 @Ivan Čukić Sections seems to be a good solution but i use a one panel configuration, more space on the screen :-), so how do you want to implement it in a one panel configuration? :-) @Ivan Čukić
Sections seems to be a good solution but i use a one panel configuration, more space on the screen :-) , so how do you want to implement it in a one panel configuration? :-)

]]> By: Ivan Čukić http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/29/lancelot-alpha/comment-page-1/#comment-6449 Ivan Čukić Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:54:08 +0000 http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/?p=101#comment-6449 <div class="ivan"> <b>@Linus</b> Thanks :D <b>@Burke</b> 1. Install subversion client on your machine (if you don't have it), and run <tt>svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdeplasma-addons/applets/lancelot</tt> You need KDE 4.1 development libraries and PIM suite in order to build it. 2. Concerning the theme, Plasma themes don't contain enough elements needed for all Lancelot widgets. But, when a Plasma theme provides those needed images, it will look as it should. I don't understand the 'separator for sections' part. If you are referring to the /new look/ of sections inside lists, it is only temporary. 3. Well, it is because nobody has joined in the development yet :) </div> @Linus
Thanks :D

@Burke
1. Install subversion client on your machine (if you don’t have it), and run
svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdeplasma-addons/applets/lancelot

You need KDE 4.1 development libraries and PIM suite in order to build it.

2. Concerning the theme, Plasma themes don’t contain enough elements needed for all Lancelot widgets. But, when a Plasma theme provides those needed images, it will look as it should.

I don’t understand the ‘separator for sections’ part. If you are referring to the /new look/ of sections inside lists, it is only temporary.

3. Well, it is because nobody has joined in the development yet :) ]]> By: Burke http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/29/lancelot-alpha/comment-page-1/#comment-6446 Burke Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:31:30 +0000 http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/?p=101#comment-6446 Does anyone knows, how to install Lancelot under opensuse 11? I tried to download the source in order to compile it from http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdeplasma-addons/applets/lancelot/ but it seems that I have to download every file in every folder separately, which would take much time. Is there a repository for opensuse or a possibility to download the lancelot files alltogehter? Or can anyone send me Lancelot in an archive or something? Back to topic: I miss the fact, that Lancelot adopts itself to the current Plasma-theme on the machine. Also I found now the menu look a bit messy with no real separator for sections like Contacts, Favourites, Apps, Storage Device, etc.. It would be nice, if the menu would look a bit more tidied up. Nevertheless, I can't wait to see the first finished version of L. BTW: Why is only one developer on this thing? Wouldn't it take far less time to develope L. if there would be more people working on it? Does anyone knows, how to install Lancelot under opensuse 11? I tried to download the source in order to compile it from http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdeplasma-addons/applets/lancelot/ but it seems that I have to download every file in every folder separately, which would take much time. Is there a repository for opensuse or a possibility to download the lancelot files alltogehter? Or can anyone send me Lancelot in an archive or something?

Back to topic: I miss the fact, that Lancelot adopts itself to the current Plasma-theme on the machine. Also I found now the menu look a bit messy with no real separator for sections like Contacts, Favourites, Apps, Storage Device, etc..
It would be nice, if the menu would look a bit more tidied up.

Nevertheless, I can’t wait to see the first finished version of L. BTW: Why is only one developer on this thing? Wouldn’t it take far less time to develope L. if there would be more people working on it?

]]> By: Linus http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/29/lancelot-alpha/comment-page-1/#comment-6437 Linus Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:43:58 +0000 http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/?p=101#comment-6437 Looks great! Even though I am actually quite fond of kickoff I am definitely going to switch to lancelot. Looks great! Even though I am actually quite fond of kickoff I am definitely going to switch to lancelot.

]]> By: Ivan Čukić http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/29/lancelot-alpha/comment-page-1/#comment-6436 Ivan Čukić Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:20:57 +0000 http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/?p=101#comment-6436 <div class="ivan"> <b>@Vide</b> Well, I can't say that there are no similarities - it *is* a two column layout (or when the categories are shown inside the menu - a two and a half column layout) - but the behaviour and feel are completely different. (or to be blunt - Lancelot is useful :D) In order to make something that doesn't look like anything else, I would have to skip one-column (Kickoff, KMenu, win95), two-column (XP, KBFX) and three-column (Tasty menu, Gimmie). So I would be left with 4 columns which is a bit too much :D </div> @Vide
Well, I can’t say that there are no similarities – it *is* a two column layout (or when the categories are shown inside the menu – a two and a half column layout) – but the behaviour and feel are completely different. (or to be blunt – Lancelot is useful :D )

In order to make something that doesn’t look like anything else, I would have to skip one-column (Kickoff, KMenu, win95), two-column (XP, KBFX) and three-column (Tasty menu, Gimmie). So I would be left with 4 columns which is a bit too much :D ]]> By: Vide http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/29/lancelot-alpha/comment-page-1/#comment-6435 Vide Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:06:41 +0000 http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/?p=101#comment-6435 Don't take it as an offense but... doesn't Lancelot look like... Windows XP start menu? Favorites on the right side, applications (although not behind a "All programs" entry) on the right, session management on the bottom... Don’t take it as an offense but… doesn’t Lancelot look like… Windows XP start menu? Favorites on the right side, applications (although not behind a “All programs” entry) on the right, session management on the bottom…

]]> By: Ivan Čukić http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/29/lancelot-alpha/comment-page-1/#comment-6434 Ivan Čukić Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:03:25 +0000 http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/?p=101#comment-6434 <div class="ivan"> <b>@Sparrow</b> Well, at the moment, I have two Lancelots on the desktop (http://white-dawn.deviantart.com/art/KDE-4-1-91144891) - "one button" in the top left corner, and "section buttons" in the middle bottom panel. I use the bottom one much more... but then again, most people have one panel setups. We'll see :) <b>Vijay Patil</b> I'll make some screenshots, so that you can see. </div> @Sparrow
Well, at the moment, I have two Lancelots on the desktop (http://white-dawn.deviantart.com/art/KDE-4-1-91144891) – “one button” in the top left corner, and “section buttons” in the middle bottom panel. I use the bottom one much more… but then again, most people have one panel setups. We’ll see :)

Vijay Patil
I’ll make some screenshots, so that you can see. ]]> By: Vijay Patil http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/07/29/lancelot-alpha/comment-page-1/#comment-6433 Vijay Patil Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:41:13 +0000 http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/?p=101#comment-6433 How exactly the Application area behaves? I mean, when you hover/click on them, submenus appear like normal K-Menu or the panel gets replaced by submenu, like KBFX or Kickoff? How exactly the Application area behaves? I mean, when you hover/click on them, submenus appear like normal K-Menu or the panel gets replaced by submenu, like KBFX or Kickoff?

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