Aug
28
2008
Lancelot 1.0 Packages
There have been some good news regarding the distribution specific packages. Thanks to many of you, packages exist for most mainstream distributions – Kubuntu, openSUSE, Mandriva, Slackware, Gentoo and Arch. I haven’t heard anything about Fedora and Debian yet, so any info would be appreciated. Note that I haven’t tested these packages.
Apart from that, there is now a source package for those of you that don’t like using SVN.
Most of the links to packages are available at the old address http://lancelot.fomentgroup.org/download. Mandriva’s package is in cooker.
Cheerio, and thanks for all the fish (help). 
p.s. Some of you have had some problems with the Parts applet. I’m not sure yet what is causing it, but will investigate it.
Any word on a kubuntu package for Hardy instead of Intrepid? Or, will the Intrepid package work with Hardy? I’d love to try it out, I’m just not ready to upgrade to hardy or compile it myself.
Comment by Aaron — 28 August 2008 @ 07:27
@Aaron
Don’t know. You could try to install it on Hardy, but I think that it would have to draw some dependencies from Intrepid.
Comment by Ivan Čukić — 28 August 2008 @ 07:30
@Aaron
install the debian package
Comment by Arjan — 28 August 2008 @ 08:56
I like your menu, but I need to order the favourites like I want. This would be a good improvement.
Comment by ferent — 28 August 2008 @ 09:28
I just installed the debian package (thank you Arjan, it worked perfectly) and am completely amazed at just how many things are a part of lancelot. Email, contacts, browsing history, not to mention the traditional things like applications and recent documents. I might be able to use it as a replacement for Alt+F2. And even with all that it already seems more natural to use than kickoff. So thank you for putting so much time into it. I’ve been reading blog entries about it for what seems like quite a while and started to think it might never get released but it was obviously time well spent making it incredibly useful. I just have a couple questions and/or requests. The up and down arrows overlap the text and it looks like some kind of mistake. It was also hard to tell what they were for since they were on all sections, even those with nothing to scroll. Secondly, is there any way to get more descriptive labels for things? I have KDE3 and 4 installed and there are 2 amarok entries but they’re exactly the same. On kickoff one says KDE4 so I always know which one I want. And lastly, for the web history, is there anyway to record page titles? I watched the akademy videos recently and if I search for blip.tv I get that link but searching for akademy gets me nothing even though it’s in the page title. It would be a lot easier to find things by their titles rather than by URL. But those are pretty minor complaints on what is a wholly wonderful menu. Thanks again.
Comment by Aaron — 28 August 2008 @ 09:28
Great work! I already know I will use this one instead of Kickoff. Just a couple of minor things…
1. I agree with Aaron about the up/down arrows. They should really only be visible when there’s something to scroll.
2. The favorites part. Somehow I think that would work better to have them on a separate pane instead of within applications.
3. Would it be possible to get a list of whatever is in Dolphin’s places list on the computer pane?
Okay, 2 and 3 would be just “stealing” things from Kickoff but hey, those are the best options of Kickoff
Comment by Jonas — 28 August 2008 @ 10:12
So debian package works in hardy? woot!
Can’t wait to get home and try it out, for the first time! ^_^
Comment by Dread Knight — 28 August 2008 @ 11:22
I updated packages from cooker when you released information of 1.0 (was already there) and when I tested, the menu works right almost, only that it does not havebackground, only a shadow (KWin) as background, and top of that all icons where floating
I’m going to check has Mandriva packages updated on Cooker. If not, I might compile it myself to check does it help.
Comment by Fri13 — 28 August 2008 @ 13:21
Packages for Fedora are available in Phobos repo: http://www.floriansievert.de/linux/repo/english.html
I’m using Lancelot on Fedora 9. Very impressive! Great work
. Altought, I agree with Aaron and Jonas about the up/down arrows.
Comment by Christian — 28 August 2008 @ 13:53
Thanks for comments and all.
Since there were too many comments, I’ll answer the most important ones in no particular order.
As I said a couple of times before, the up/down arrows will be replaced with real (albeit modified) scrollbars… you’ll see when it is done.
Problem with Dolphin’s places is that it contains the drives etc. which have their own section in L. I’ll see what can I do, but…
Concerning the no background problem, it was a build issue in some revision(s). It is now all fixed.
And concerning the separation of Favourites, well, it will not happen (I have to say no sometimes
)
Comment by Ivan Čukić — 28 August 2008 @ 15:02
“Concerning the no background problem, it was a build issue in some revision(s). It is now all fixed.”
Good to know
I’m always glad when the developer takes part of the blogs
So, I’m waiting time to check that update from cooker so the L background is there. Otherwise great work!
Comment by Fri13 — 28 August 2008 @ 16:24
OH MY FUCKING GOD! I SWEAR YOU FUCKING ROCK DUDE!
I’ve installed Lancelot for the first time on kubuntu using the debian package. It’s simply fucking amazing, definitely sticking with it; need to decide if to use my avatar or holy grail logo or classic behavior vs no-clicking lol
It’s a master piece. I’m amazed.
Looking forward to your ‘awn type dock’ panel thingy, i’m sure it’s going to be a success! (really tired of this old type behavior panel).
Cheers mate! Rock on! \m/
Comment by DreadKnight — 28 August 2008 @ 20:45
Hi,
I’m having problem to make it work.
I downloaded it from the openSUSE Build Service and the only thing I got is just a small transparent square.
I checked the files as mentioned in the troubleshooting and everything is where it supposed to be…(if it’s in “/usr/lib…or /usr/bin…” even the file in the share/dbus-1/services folder.
What do you suggest I should do…
I’m drooling over the screenshots already….
Thanks
Comment by Hekkro — 29 August 2008 @ 03:29
@DreadKnight
What did you mean when you said your ‘awn type dock’?
Thanks
@Hekkro
Could you provide a screenshot?
Comment by Ivan Čukić — 29 August 2008 @ 04:25
I’m using Lancelot in Arch. This thing is great! It has feauters that I was missing in standard KDE4.1 menu. For sure it will be default menu in many distros
Comment by guest — 29 August 2008 @ 18:18
The menu’s good but it could use some better keyboard navigation.
Comment by Joshua Hess — 30 August 2008 @ 20:41
It would be nice if it was possible to poweroff and restart the system directly from the lancelot menu.
Comment by noone — 31 August 2008 @ 12:26
I installed the debian package in hardy, but it shows as version 0.5 in “About Lancelot” Is it an old package, or did you simply forget to change the version?
Also, when tried to compile from source, I got this:
Scanning dependencies of target lancelot-menu
[ 34%] Building CXX object app/src/CMakeFiles/lancelot-menu.dir/lancelot-menu_automoc.o
In file included from /home/piotrek/programy/zrodla/lancelot/build/app/src/moc_MessagesKmail.cpp:10,
from /home/piotrek/programy/zrodla/lancelot/build/app/src/lancelot-menu_automoc.cpp:9:
/home/piotrek/programy/zrodla/lancelot/build/app/src/../../../app/src/models/MessagesKmail.h:25:37: error: taskmanager/taskmanager.h: No such file or directory
In file included from /home/piotrek/programy/zrodla/lancelot/build/app/src/moc_MessagesKmail.cpp:10,
from /home/piotrek/programy/zrodla/lancelot/build/app/src/lancelot-menu_automoc.cpp:9:
/home/piotrek/programy/zrodla/lancelot/build/app/src/../../../app/src/models/MessagesKmail.h:28: error: ‘TaskManager’ has not been declared
make[2]: *** [app/src/CMakeFiles/lancelot-menu.dir/lancelot-menu_automoc.o] Błąd 1
make[1]: *** [app/src/CMakeFiles/lancelot-menu.dir/all] Błąd 2
make: *** [all] Błąd 2
What’s that about and how to fix this?
Comment by peter — 3 September 2008 @ 23:08
@peter
It’s an old package.
Concerning the compilation problem, you need the KDE workspace development libs. (don’t know what is the name of the package – I compile all KDE from source)
Comment by Ivan Čukić — 4 September 2008 @ 07:08
hey great job ,definately staying on my desktop.
I was trying to assign the win key to launch lancelot (failed horribly)when i came up with an idea,why not popup the menu with mouse wheel click navigate and scroll turnning it and click to go to the next menu or start applications?
keep up the good work!
Comment by antonis — 4 September 2008 @ 12:40
@antonis
Could you elaborate? I really don’t understand what you wanted to say.
Comment by Ivan Čukić — 4 September 2008 @ 12:55
Mouse wheel click launches lancelot with focus on the applications computer contacts documents ‘tab’,next mouse wheel click expands/focuses/executes the selected menu entry.The point is to minimize physical mouse movement.The drawback unfortunately is that the mouse click shortcut is already used for clipboard paste (or whatever thats called) which is very helpfull.(i’m sorry for beeing a little vague .i acnt fully express myself in english, not beeing a native speaker)
Comment by antonis — 4 September 2008 @ 13:26
@antonis
Ok, I get the idea now.
Unfortunately, having the middle click (wheel click) globally replaced is not an option. I would like to have a way to invoke the menu by mouse without the need for a launcher applet, but middle click has a couple useful features (the paste as a global one, open in new tab / or close a tab in some applications, …).
This would be possible for super-mouses that have more than 3 buttons. You’d just have to call
$ qdbus org.kde.lancelot /Lancelot show 0 0
Comment by Ivan Čukić — 4 September 2008 @ 15:08
Today I’ve backported the Kubuntu Intrepid Package to Hardy. Works fine and Lancelot is much butter than kickoff.
Is it planed that Launcelot use the plasma theme? I use Arezzo but Launcelot still looks like Oxygen.
Comment by Czessi — 4 September 2008 @ 15:42
@Czessi
Any links for the backported package? Or is it in hardy-backports?
I hate repeating myself. I the active Plasma theme contains images needed by Lancelot, those will be used. No theme provides that ATM, so you see the default one.
Comment by Ivan Čukić — 4 September 2008 @ 15:52
@Ivan
Thanks for your response.
I’ve upload the hardy package to the kde4-members-ppa
https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive
Comment by Czessi — 4 September 2008 @ 17:51
I’m using lancelot in kubuntu intrepid! It’s really great!
Well…there’s just one little thing…when I click on the icon of the menu the kwin shadow appears and only a little later the menu itself. This is not so nice to see. Apart from this I love it!
Comment by Giovanni — 5 September 2008 @ 11:10
I installed lancelot, and i can get the menu working, although it looks funny (blurry edges, no background), and i like it very much, apart from one thing: keyboard navigation. Where did that go?!
Comment by Anders — 6 September 2008 @ 22:14
@Anders
Interesting appearance :/ As far as the keyboard navigation is concerned it went into TODO list for 2.0 along with the scroll-bars.
Comment by Ivan Čukić — 7 September 2008 @ 06:52