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	<title>Comments on: Lancelot 1.7: I just get carried away&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: MrE</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2009/05/22/lancelot-17-whats-new/comment-page-1/#comment-8277</link>
		<dc:creator>MrE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, thanks for this excellent application launcher. Of all the attempts made in recent years to replace the traditional start menu design, only Lancelot actually innovates.

The only thing I miss really is the ability to sort the applications list and the application shortcuts themselves. At the moment, the order seems to be completely random, with applications I hardly use at the top while others I use more frequently appear at the bottom or somewhere in the middle. The order in the Menu Editor is completely ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, thanks for this excellent application launcher. Of all the attempts made in recent years to replace the traditional start menu design, only Lancelot actually innovates.</p>
<p>The only thing I miss really is the ability to sort the applications list and the application shortcuts themselves. At the moment, the order seems to be completely random, with applications I hardly use at the top while others I use more frequently appear at the bottom or somewhere in the middle. The order in the Menu Editor is completely ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Čukić</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2009/05/22/lancelot-17-whats-new/comment-page-1/#comment-8214</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Čukić</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 09:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-8211&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mladen Drobnjaković&lt;/a&gt;: Heh, yes you are. :)

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-8212&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;frustphil&lt;/a&gt;: Ok, I see now what you meant. I honestly don&#039;t know why would anybody want favourites to be shown when contacts section (for example) is open.

Since the applications section is being opened by default, the favourites are the most accessible part of L. If you decide to browse the applications, it implies that the application you&#039;re browsing for is not in the favourites, so there is no need to show them anymore.

The same goes if you go to /other/ sections.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-8213&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bora Corba&lt;/a&gt;: There will soon (4.4) be an option to choose what happens when you (left&#124;right&#124;middle)-click the desktop. So, it will be possible to open Lancelot on any of those actions.

p.s. As for the icon, I am aware of that, but I&#039;m reluctant to change it. That was the main reason for the option to set a custom icon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-8211" rel="nofollow">Mladen Drobnjaković</a>: Heh, yes you are. <img src='http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/kopete/smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-8212" rel="nofollow">frustphil</a>: Ok, I see now what you meant. I honestly don&#8217;t know why would anybody want favourites to be shown when contacts section (for example) is open.</p>
<p>Since the applications section is being opened by default, the favourites are the most accessible part of L. If you decide to browse the applications, it implies that the application you&#8217;re browsing for is not in the favourites, so there is no need to show them anymore.</p>
<p>The same goes if you go to /other/ sections.</p>
<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-8213" rel="nofollow">Bora Corba</a>: There will soon (4.4) be an option to choose what happens when you (left|right|middle)-click the desktop. So, it will be possible to open Lancelot on any of those actions.</p>
<p>p.s. As for the icon, I am aware of that, but I&#8217;m reluctant to change it. That was the main reason for the option to set a custom icon.</p>
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		<title>By: Bora Corba</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2009/05/22/lancelot-17-whats-new/comment-page-1/#comment-8213</link>
		<dc:creator>Bora Corba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 03:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think the goblet graphic doesnt look as hot when its on a smaller screen like a netbook.

Instead of using a K button/Start/Lancelot goblet, Id love to be able to right click on the deskto and have one of the options be Lancelot.
That&#039;s how I turn off the computer most time since it takes about 4/5 clicks to turn it off once I click on K.

The contacts section with inbox, bug updates and IM contacts is genial.

Bora</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think the goblet graphic doesnt look as hot when its on a smaller screen like a netbook.</p>
<p>Instead of using a K button/Start/Lancelot goblet, Id love to be able to right click on the deskto and have one of the options be Lancelot.<br />
That&#8217;s how I turn off the computer most time since it takes about 4/5 clicks to turn it off once I click on K.</p>
<p>The contacts section with inbox, bug updates and IM contacts is genial.</p>
<p>Bora</p>
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		<title>By: frustphil</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2009/05/22/lancelot-17-whats-new/comment-page-1/#comment-8212</link>
		<dc:creator>frustphil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 03:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swap the Favorites and the Categories position... But I could be wrong...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swap the Favorites and the Categories position&#8230; But I could be wrong&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mladen Drobnjaković</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2009/05/22/lancelot-17-whats-new/comment-page-1/#comment-8211</link>
		<dc:creator>Mladen Drobnjaković</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 18:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He he, there I am in the third picture
(amongst the contacts) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He he, there I am in the third picture<br />
(amongst the contacts) <img src='http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/kopete/smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Čukić</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2009/05/22/lancelot-17-whats-new/comment-page-1/#comment-8210</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Čukić</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 16:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-8207&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;manny&lt;/a&gt;: 
1 - recent applications will be merged with favourites - it will be a smart favourites list... something like amarok does. It really makes no sense to me to put recent applications in documents.
2 - that is a KRunner limitation (the Alt+F2 dialogue) - Lancelot is using KRunner as backend for searching.
3 - in the trunk (soon to be 4.3), if you are displaying the categories in the applet itself and not in the menu, you can choose which ones you want to display.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-8208&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;frustphil&lt;/a&gt;: Again, I don&#039;t get it. If you open the &#039;Contacts&#039; section, you don&#039;t get Favourites at all.

Could you make a mock-up of your idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-8207" rel="nofollow">manny</a>:<br />
1 &#8211; recent applications will be merged with favourites &#8211; it will be a smart favourites list&#8230; something like amarok does. It really makes no sense to me to put recent applications in documents.<br />
2 &#8211; that is a KRunner limitation (the Alt+F2 dialogue) &#8211; Lancelot is using KRunner as backend for searching.<br />
3 &#8211; in the trunk (soon to be 4.3), if you are displaying the categories in the applet itself and not in the menu, you can choose which ones you want to display.</p>
<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-8208" rel="nofollow">frustphil</a>: Again, I don&#8217;t get it. If you open the &#8216;Contacts&#8217; section, you don&#8217;t get Favourites at all.</p>
<p>Could you make a mock-up of your idea?</p>
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		<title>By: frustphil</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2009/05/22/lancelot-17-whats-new/comment-page-1/#comment-8208</link>
		<dc:creator>frustphil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 14:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;2. I have absolutely no idea what you tried to say here.&quot;

Maybe he meant merging Favorites category and right-most category. What he meant with unintuitive could be that the right-most category should be beside the navigation tabs which, IMO, makes sense because you would be expecting the results to be beside the navigation tabs. So if you click the Contacts tab, the list of contacts should be next to/beside it instead of Favorites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;2. I have absolutely no idea what you tried to say here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe he meant merging Favorites category and right-most category. What he meant with unintuitive could be that the right-most category should be beside the navigation tabs which, IMO, makes sense because you would be expecting the results to be beside the navigation tabs. So if you click the Contacts tab, the list of contacts should be next to/beside it instead of Favorites.</p>
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		<title>By: manny</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2009/05/22/lancelot-17-whats-new/comment-page-1/#comment-8207</link>
		<dc:creator>manny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 08:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great menu, this the one i use most of the time

just needs 3 things to be better:

1- recent applications used (could probably be merged with the documents tab since i barely use that)
2- search with less than 3 characters typed in the search bar
3- ability to hide the contacs tab (some ppl may not use it, but this is more of low priority, just an idea)

am using the one that comes in kde4.2.3 in kubuntu so i am not really sure if u have already added them, anyway great job so far :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great menu, this the one i use most of the time</p>
<p>just needs 3 things to be better:</p>
<p>1- recent applications used (could probably be merged with the documents tab since i barely use that)<br />
2- search with less than 3 characters typed in the search bar<br />
3- ability to hide the contacs tab (some ppl may not use it, but this is more of low priority, just an idea)</p>
<p>am using the one that comes in kde4.2.3 in kubuntu so i am not really sure if u have already added them, anyway great job so far <img src='http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/kopete/smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Čukić</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2009/05/22/lancelot-17-whats-new/comment-page-1/#comment-8206</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Čukić</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 07:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-8203&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Zeke&lt;/a&gt;: The duplicates are most probably due to wrong system setup. For example, I know it appears in Gentoo, but not in Fedora nor Debian.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-8204&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dean&lt;/a&gt;: 
1. collapsing the categories (that is making them smaller) will be possible in the future. For the time being, you can set the categories to be shown in the applet instead of the menu,

2. I have absolutely no idea what you tried to say here.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-8205&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David P H&lt;/a&gt;: Organizing in what sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-8203" rel="nofollow">Zeke</a>: The duplicates are most probably due to wrong system setup. For example, I know it appears in Gentoo, but not in Fedora nor Debian.</p>
<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-8204" rel="nofollow">dean</a>:<br />
1. collapsing the categories (that is making them smaller) will be possible in the future. For the time being, you can set the categories to be shown in the applet instead of the menu,</p>
<p>2. I have absolutely no idea what you tried to say here.</p>
<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-8205" rel="nofollow">David P H</a>: Organizing in what sense?</p>
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		<title>By: David P H</title>
		<link>http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2009/05/22/lancelot-17-whats-new/comment-page-1/#comment-8205</link>
		<dc:creator>David P H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 06:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job thank you. 
Lancelot is now my first choice. In my opinion it has a clean look, is intuitive and easy to use. Seems to me like th one person with negative feedback needs to get better acquainted with how to configure the menus. The one thing I would like to maybe see in future versions is methods or options of organizing items in each category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job thank you.<br />
Lancelot is now my first choice. In my opinion it has a clean look, is intuitive and easy to use. Seems to me like th one person with negative feedback needs to get better acquainted with how to configure the menus. The one thing I would like to maybe see in future versions is methods or options of organizing items in each category.</p>
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